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  1. John
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    What it really does is throw up politics as an emotional political narrative to bolster core vote support – rather than a radical pragmatic narrative with a long-term vision.

  2. Andy Strange
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    Yes, well said.

  3. Cat
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    “In this post I am not seeking to mount a defence of the Justice Secretary or enter into a debate about rape or the justice system”

    That’s all very well but you cannot separate the idea Clarke was putting forward from Miliband’s reaction to it. The policy that rapists should be given bigger sentence discounts than other criminals if they confess is repulsive and a totally stupid idea. Penal reform should start by ending the endless cycle of junkies & mentalists being banged-up and redirecting resources to convicting more rapists and sending them to jail for longer.

    “but it is Ed who has taken the lasting damage.”

    Yeh, among the last half dozen liberal lefties still clinging to the libdems and bitching about everything he does or says.

  4. Andy Strange
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    Thanks Cat for your comment. A couple of points:

    “That’s all very well but you cannot separate the idea Clarke was putting forward from Miliband’s reaction to it.”

    And I wasn’t trying to. What I was writing about was, as I said, what it reveals about the direction of the Labour party.

    “The policy that rapists should be given bigger sentence discounts than other criminals if they confess is repulsive and a totally stupid idea.”

    Yes it is, so it is a good job that nobody is suggesting that they should. Go back and have a look at what the policy that government is consulting on actually is about. It is not what you think it is.

    Also, while I wouldn’t put it the way you have, I completely agree that central to penal reform should be measures that deal with problems of drug addiction and mental health amongst criminals. Something we are more likely to get if we can get politicians away from constant talk about being tough/soft on crime.

    While I am happy to wear the label “liberal lefty” I reject the idea that I am just bitching about Miliband. I agree with him when he says that the Labour party shouldn’t “try to out-right the right on crime”. That would be good for British politics and, in the long term, good for the Labour party.

    Maybe it doesn’t come across, but on that I believe he is right. What is disappointing is that after this week it is obvious that his party isn’t listening to him.

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